Thanks. I needed this!

Here's some toilet reading for ya:

http://www.techwarereview.com/encoding%20guide%203.htm
http://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=174200
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... index.html
http://www.doom9.org/ivtc-tut.htm#IVTCForNTSC
http://www.geocities.com/analyzerDRF/



Poor monkey misses every time... for shame!

Thanks

Thanks for the info grInd! Damn monkey can;t even shoot straight

Imagine your balls are in the middle of those two glasses



Hmmm gonna go read some of that stuff!

My balls would have been cold and squashed

Ok after some extensive reading and trial/error I think I have found my new settings standards!

Firstly I found that this light filtering works great for almost everything:

In AVS text-edit, use:
Temporalsoften(2,3,3,mode=2,scenechange=2)
mergechroma(blur(0.3))

and if there is noise add this:
FluxSmoothST(3,3) -or- Convolution3d("moviehq")

And here are my new favorite quant settings for AFR (with jawor's 2CD):




Try them out!!!!

Will do man!

[robert evans mode]

You bet Your Ass you Will.

[/robert evans mode]

Gonna try uit with my second try on ripping Frighteners HDTV

I tried the setting on Frighteners HDTV. I personally don't see any notable difference between the two... Okay maybe a bit better looking

Frighteners

My first HDTV rip

I'm really sorry if this has already been answered

But for compressing a DVD.
When is it better to make a Divx rip instead?
50%? 80%? etc.

Never. Maybe for compatibility. DivX5 looks good to me, but xvid is more versatile.

so compressed DVDs are always better than ripped .AVIs?

But divx is avi... maybe I missed something?

I wouldn't shrink mpeg2 less than a DVDr size.

sorry sorry,
this is my mistake
I'm very new to the formats and terminology.

I usually use DVD shrink which will compress DVDs to fit on a 4.5 gig DVD
I heard Lux say something about after a certain point, to get better quality, you should make a rip of the movie instead of compressing it.

I just have a huge stack of DVDs that rank about 50% compression
Stalker
M
Metropolis
Mad Max
and a few others

just wondering if making a rip of the movie would preserve more quality than shrinking the DVD?
hope i asked that right?

yes, if you made 2GB rips for each (personal backup is fun, make your own rules!)

then the quality would be MUCH more pleasing. If your not realeasing go for the best, 100% quality.

Instead of compressing mpeg2 from like 6+GB to dvdr, go for a half DVD avi for your own backup. Or even a 4.3GB avi (you can split it, or not).

You will get very high bitrate and resolution and full audio.

Thats what your asking right?

I think they are other options in that case besides just xvid avi. Codecs that allow chapter stops and such.

yes yes, awesome
So if theres a 6gig DVD, i should just go ahead and make an AVI out of it?
2GB rip is the best?

Like grInd says that depends on what u are gonna do with it. Personal back-up, releasing on ed2k etc.
When it's purely for yourself, the filesize doesn't really matter as long as the quality is great (off course that depends on the source dvd aswell)
I have ripped a movie at 1/6 and 1/3 dvd size and the latter wasn't that much better, so i went for the smaller filesize. A sidenote about this:
It's for my personal use so i could have made it everything between 745 MB and 4.3 GB, but since i back-up the movies to dvd i choosed an afs so they will fit/fill a dvd.

So the main question here is why are u ripping them and what do u wanna do with them? Again the best way to find out about al the settings etc is just to rip at a lot of different settigns so you'll see for yourself how it turns out. If u have some u can try it out on a trailer (small filesize fast ripping )

Also you may want standalone compatible, which a lot of SB/iami releases aren't anymore. I suggest going for a high target bitrate, like 2000+, and using the standard mpeg matrix, with ITU checked, and untouched audio. Unless you are a cheap-o with media

haha, i'm not so cheap with media
but i am cheap
thanks guys!
i'll look into it

Glad I was of service

Where can i edit the AVS text?

There are multiple ways to do it..

When you click save & encode, you can then click on edit and see the AVS script?

Better yet, save it from there, then load it in Virtual DUb Mod, and you can there also edit it and see what the results do on the picture right away

When you're happy with what's shown just copy paste it later when you click save & encode or something...

BTW when a "#" is before something it means it's disabled. When removed it's enabled

Thanks will check things out!

Experiment a bit, I'm sure you'll grasp it soon... Pretty simple stuff when you understand it.

On a sidenote... Uhmmm I think I have some settings messed up or something. I reset the XviD to defaults but still the same shit...

The rip always comes out like Jawors 2cd wasn't even used Hmmm I need to try some other shit out...

Both Boa and Python look worse than the source, which shouldn't be, cause the bitrate is high on both.

Well, actually you can just type some stuff into notepad and save it as an AVS file, load it in the save and encode (where it asks you what to do with the audio).

For example, here is one I'm using on Inferno right this minute:




But it could just be:




Filters/functions are loaded in the order specified. LoadPlugin loads the plugin (some just need to be called upon, so no Loadplugin, ie, mergechroma).
Then the frameserver, in this case Mpeg2Source.
Trim allows to encode just a range of frames. So if you setup your project, and want a preview, snip a chunk, and it will use the calculations of the project on just a portion of frames.
Crop crops what you select in GK. You can type it in here to change if you like. Notice its put before resizer.
The resizer duh resizes, also getting the parameters from GK's window.
The rest there are filters and their parameters. The order is important, my example is an experiment, not a recommendation.

It can be written even simpler dan dat. Like " filtername(1,1,1,true,up,"etc") " depends on the filter. A good starting database HERE.

Or you can load up vdubmod and do it that way. Scripting and codec setting are the pillar of it all however.

To go off topic from AVS...

Anyway, it seems all the crap rips that were coming out lately were done with Jawor2cd.

Tryiong out a different HQ matrix to see if it's something to do with that. Dunno why though, cause it worked
great before...

But I reinstalled both XviD and Gknot so don't see what else could be causing the prob

LOL

Lux, just cause a crap rip was made doesn't mean you have reinstall xvid/gk.

And undersized rip can be caused by a matrix with high quantizing, which is generally made for lowbitrate/smallfilesize, or many noise/smoothing filters run after comp check stats. High bitrates also don't always mean quality. Neither does high res. SOme argue that the bigger better perspective is detrimental to the idea of compression. A good DVD source should look great or better at 1.46GB, depending on length and audio size of course. But at full res with perfect motion and detail. Thats the theory, but its all adult diapers once again.

Get that editor from the jawor site, and modify j2cd a bit. Lower numbers mean less quant. I cant explain exactly what to do, patterns and such, but go from high left corner to low right corner, lower numbers up in the left. You amy be surprised what 'hacking' at it does. Be caeful, you could create instability if its stupid.

Or, try my XViD quant setting (earlier in this thread), or I 1,3 P 2,12 B 2,18. I think it produces better and more stable/consistent results.
As opposed to the guide way of I 1,31 P 1,31 B 1,31, which IMO can cause sporadic frame quality that is perceivable, some excellent some crap. I hate that!
This allows perfect keyframes, excellent to good P frames, and excellent to acceptable B frames.

Next I'd say, try some grainaway shit. There is GK standard, Undot, Deblock, Convolution3d, mipsmooth, mergechroma. MAybe shy away from sharpening.

Though with 3rdDVDrips, smoothing it makes it more compressible, thus hindering the filesize. You might get lucky (or are just the bomb) and it puts it into the bitrate and framequality. Or it will keep those calcs and you get a tiny prick than you hoped for.

lol

We'll I'll try different crap First to see how this encode with the different matrix will turn out, it's at 76% second pass now

We'll see, we'll see.

Thanks