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Post Re: Ripping/encoding/releasing Q & A Prt. II
MCTemporalDenoise update - http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=139766
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Post Re: Ripping/encoding/releasing Q & A Prt. II
junkboy wrote:
MCTemporalDenoise update - http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=139766

i suppose youre not answering my help call ^^

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Post Re: Ripping/encoding/releasing Q & A Prt. II
Sorry man, I would but I don't use MeGui, so I can't really help much. All I can tell you is that Telmo was suggesting you run a compressibility check before you run the encode to help avoid oversized/undersized rips.
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Post Re: Ripping/encoding/releasing Q & A Prt. II
how can i see if the movie have corrupted frames ???

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Post Re: Ripping/encoding/releasing Q & A Prt. II
telmoMRC wrote:
how can i see if the movie have corrupted frames ???


watch the whole movie :clown:

At least this is what I do. I watch my encodes before releasing them. :ere:

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Post Re: Ripping/encoding/releasing Q & A Prt. II
@ zacharias
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Sorry man, I would but I don't use MeGui, so I can't really help much. All I can tell you is that Telmo was suggesting you run a compressibility check before you run the encode to help avoid oversized/undersized rips.

http://jonny.leffe.dnsalias.com/

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comprees test Enc:
No MeGUI:
Tools -> Bitrate Calculator -> and chosse the size of the file you want them load the audio file too and them you will see bitrate example 1555


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1 - path virtualdubmod
2 - load avs
3 - bitrate 1555
4 - use this settings 

COMPRESSION TEST SETTINGS                           
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+--- Profile@Level / More / Profile           
|    |                                        
|    +--- Quant Type (Matrix): SixOfNine      
|    +--- Adaptive quant     : No             
|    +--- Quarter Pixel      : No             
|    +--- GMC                : No             
|    |                                   
|    \--- B-VOPs                         
|         |                              
|         +--- Max bvops       : 2       
|         +--- quant ratio     : 1.62    
|         +--- quant offset    : 0.00    
|         \--- Packed Bitstream: No
|                                             
+--- Encoding Type: Single Pass               
|                                             
+--- Zones                                    
|    |                                        
|    +--- Start frame        : 0              
|    +--- Quantizer          : 3              
|    +--- Chroma optimizer   : No             
|    \--- BVOP sensitivity   : 0              
|                                             
+--- Preset / More / Motion                   
|    |                                        
|    +--- Search precision    : 4             
|    +--- VHQ mode            : 0             
|    +--- VHQ for bframes     : No            
|    +--- Chroma motion       : No            
|    \--- Turbo               : Yes          
|                                             
\--- Preset / More / Quantization             
     |                                        
     +--- Min/Max quants      : irrelevant
     \--- Trellis quantization: Yes


Matriz SixOfNine: http://f.imagehost.org/download/0942/SixOfNine

i think his this what you want try it

in your screen you have quality preset = general purpose you need to change that to quality preset = user defenided

http://sbigare.us/viewtopic.php?p=131441#p131441

http://sbigare.us/viewtopic.php?p=131442#p131442


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elguaxo wrote:
telmoMRC wrote:
how can i see if the movie have corrupted frames ???


watch the whole movie :clown:

At least this is what I do. I watch my encodes before releasing them. :ere:

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I also do that, to ensure the quality!

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Post Re: Ripping/encoding/releasing Q & A Prt. II
can you guy?s check me this sample http://www.mediafire.com/?mktizzf1g3z

beware the guy is stone or drunk or something :na:

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annoying blur effect...! :fishy:

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fuego wrote:
annoying blur effect...! :fishy:


^^ ^^

any more ideias ???? :hihi:

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whattabout some compare pics... ;)

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Post Re: Ripping/encoding/releasing Q & A Prt. II
i?ve donwload a xvid rip and is the same shit so i guessing that is from the movie not from bad encode or something

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Post Re: Ripping/encoding/releasing Q & A Prt. II
telmoMRC wrote:
i?ve donwload a xvid rip and is the same shit so i guessing that is from the movie not from bad encode or something

I saw the xvid also, but don't have it anymore and couldn't recall that blurriness.
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Post Re: Ripping/encoding/releasing Q & A Prt. II
Updated AviSynth Plugins folder. Attention this is only for AviSynth 2.5.7!

Highlights:
- MCTemporalDenoise v1.4.18.
- Deblock_QED_masktools_fix.avs. Modified version of Deblock_QED that works with MaskTools 2.0a43.

there is a folder called system32. Copy the 4 DLLs from that folder to \WINDOWS\system32. I think the equivalent folder on XP 64 is \WINDOWS\SysWOW64\

Download: Multiupload | Mediafire | TinyUpload


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Previous version here: viewtopic.php?p=157395#p157395

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thx gx!

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Post Re: Ripping/encoding/releasing Q & A Prt. II
am I to picky... :teeth:

source (top) vs. encode (bottom):
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1/3 DVD size, bitrate is 1330 kbit/s and movie length is 1h 57mn.

FR is 19.98 with this:
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MCTemporalDenoise(settings="very low",GPU=false,chroma=true,enhance=false,sharp=false)


question: should I make CRF 18-19 with --tune grain instead?

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fuego wrote:
am I to picky... :teeth:


A bit. It's a fine result for a ratefactor ~20. A 1/2DVD or a CRF ~19 with --tune grain will look a bit better. You decide! :probe:

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:cheer:

what about TTempSmooth (stabilize via MCTemporalDenoise)... any experience with that?

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stabilize bool = based on mode
Enable ttempsmooth post processing to stabilize only flat areas (background will be less "nervous")

http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/MCTemporalDenoise
http://avisynth.org.ru/docs/english/externalfilters/ttempSmooth.htm

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Post Re: Ripping/encoding/releasing Q & A Prt. II
You won't notice the difference, the boost is too small.

You have a nice looking encode. You can release it as it is, or you can aim for a higher transparency to the source by using more bitrate (1/2DVD or CRF ~19). :clown:

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Never ran into a Bluray this compressible. I am trying at 1/3 dvd (trying to grab extra details), bitrate 1321 and I get 17.59 FR. My compression test was 19 wtf?

The iframes are crazy: x264 [info]: frame I:1192 Avg QP:13.91

So 1/4 dvd 576p? :eek:
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When the compressibility is too high, the test tends to give you a higher RF (19 vs 17.59). What's the movie?

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@ fuego, screens look pretty good to me :D
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elguaxo wrote:
When the compressibility is too high, the test tends to give you a higher RF (19 vs 17.59). What's the movie?


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I asked because movies that are too dark are a bit tricky. Try a 1/4DVD, but if you see banding, go for 1/3DVD.

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I will probably go 1/3 because 1/4 877 bitrate sounds a bit crazy don't you think?
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You always sound a bit crazy! :hihi:

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elguaxo wrote:
You always sound a bit crazy! :hihi:


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what do you think about this guy?s ???

Source (top) vs. Encode (bottom):

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"C:\Users\TMRC\Documents\my encodes\x264 build march=i686\x264.exe" --preset veryslow --crf 19 --level 4.1 --output "C:\Users\TMRC\Documents\my encodes\my.movie.mkv" "C:\Users\TMRC\Documents\my encodes\fuego ass.avs" --no-fast-pskip --no-dct-decimate --deblock -2:-1 --b-pyramid normal --aq-strength 0.7 --psy-rd 1.2:0.25 --sar 64:45

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looks pretty good to me :)
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