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Author:  sense [ Sat May 29, 2010 10:16 pm ]
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Would you guys mind taking a look at these 1min samples at different bitrates? Thoughts? Greatly appreciated. :)

Book of Eli

1/4 DVD 877 bitrate:
http://www.multiupload.com/E2NKCOKYHI (5 MB)

1/3 DVD 1321 bitrate:
http://www.multiupload.com/2FATHIWBAL (8 MB)

1/2 DVD 1902 bitrate:
http://www.multiupload.com/U43O6SQRCR (14 MB)
Author:  elguaxo [ Sat May 29, 2010 10:17 pm ]
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telmoMRC wrote:
what do you think about this guy?s ???


Nice.
Author:  elguaxo [ Sat May 29, 2010 10:41 pm ]
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@sense

I really had a hard time telling them apart during normal viewing! I just didn't like the backgrounds @ 877 so much, so I'd go for 1/3DVD:

877 (top) vs. 1321 (middle) vs. 1902 (bottom):
Image Image Image
Image Image Image
Image Image Image
Author:  fuego [ Sat May 29, 2010 10:53 pm ]
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elguaxo wrote:
telmoMRC wrote:
what do you think about this guy?s ???


Nice.

:bang:
Author:  Pure [ Sat May 29, 2010 11:24 pm ]
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sense wrote:
looks pretty good to me :)


:agree:
Author:  sense [ Sun May 30, 2010 12:01 am ]
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elguaxo wrote:
@sense

I really had a hard time telling them apart during normal viewing! I just didn't like the backgrounds @ 877 so much, so I'd go for 1/3DVD:


ok thanks elguaxo :cheer:
Author:  Pure [ Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:31 pm ]
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Thanks to junkboy my problems with the MeGui bitrate calculator are over.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=154441

I used the SA version and that seems to be giving correct results. Double checked it against the MeGui bitrate calculator and that one still gave 'false' results.
Author:  elguaxo [ Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:12 pm ]
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I didn't know it was available as a standalone app. I think it's time to delete MeGUI. Thanks! :ere:
Author:  junkboy [ Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:36 pm ]
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Pure wrote:
Thanks to junkboy my problems with the MeGui bitrate calculator are over.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=154441

I used the SA version and that seems to be giving correct results. Double checked it against the MeGui bitrate calculator and that one still gave 'false' results.


Cool :good:
Author:  medusa [ Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:50 pm ]
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Am having a hard thyme figuring the right deinterlacing method to use on this one.
Image

Here's a sample.

It seems it contains some blending. I've tried:
Code:
tfm(pp=7, cthresh=8, chroma=true).tdecimate()
Vinverse()


But without much success!

Can anyone recommend what would work best on it?
Author:  elguaxo [ Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:08 pm ]
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Mainland China is PAL and Hong Kong is NTSC. This kind of shit happens all the time when something produced in one side gets released on the other side. You must restore this one to 25 fps. Maybe one or two blends will slip through, but it will fix almost everything.

Code:
Import("D:\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\SRestore.avs")

DGDecode_mpeg2source("I:\videos\sample.d2v")

d = last.bob(-0.2,0.6).reduceflicker(strength=1).crop( 4, 0, -4, 0)
yadifmod(mode=1, edeint=nnedi2(-2))
SRestore(dclip=d,mode=-2,cache=5)

crop( 4, 0, -4, 0)
Author:  medusa [ Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:23 pm ]
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Works great. Mucho gracias :cheer:
Author:  telmoMRC [ Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:24 pm ]
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Muchas gracias :wha:
Author:  medusa [ Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:27 pm ]
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edited butt too late :spank:
Author:  telmoMRC [ Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:32 pm ]
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medusa wrote:
edited butt too late :spank:


:cracked: :cracked: :gif:
Author:  zacharias [ Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:49 am ]
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fuego wrote:
@ zacharias
junkboy wrote:
Sorry man, I would but I don't use MeGui, so I can't really help much. All I can tell you is that Telmo was suggesting you run a compressibility check before you run the encode to help avoid oversized/undersized rips.

http://jonny.leffe.dnsalias.com/

telmoMRC wrote:
comprees test Enc:
No MeGUI:
Tools -> Bitrate Calculator -> and chosse the size of the file you want them load the audio file too and them you will see bitrate example 1555


Image

1 - path virtualdubmod
2 - load avs
3 - bitrate 1555
4 - use this settings 

COMPRESSION TEST SETTINGS                           
|                                             
+--- Profile@Level / More / Profile           
|    |                                        
|    +--- Quant Type (Matrix): SixOfNine      
|    +--- Adaptive quant     : No             
|    +--- Quarter Pixel      : No             
|    +--- GMC                : No             
|    |                                   
|    \--- B-VOPs                         
|         |                              
|         +--- Max bvops       : 2       
|         +--- quant ratio     : 1.62    
|         +--- quant offset    : 0.00    
|         \--- Packed Bitstream: No
|                                             
+--- Encoding Type: Single Pass               
|                                             
+--- Zones                                    
|    |                                        
|    +--- Start frame        : 0              
|    +--- Quantizer          : 3              
|    +--- Chroma optimizer   : No             
|    \--- BVOP sensitivity   : 0              
|                                             
+--- Preset / More / Motion                   
|    |                                        
|    +--- Search precision    : 4             
|    +--- VHQ mode            : 0             
|    +--- VHQ for bframes     : No            
|    +--- Chroma motion       : No            
|    \--- Turbo               : Yes          
|                                             
\--- Preset / More / Quantization             
     |                                        
     +--- Min/Max quants      : irrelevant
     \--- Trellis quantization: Yes


Matriz SixOfNine: http://f.imagehost.org/download/0942/SixOfNine

i think his this what you want try it

in your screen you have quality preset = general purpose you need to change that to quality preset = user defenided

http://sbigare.us/viewtopic.php?p=131441#p131441

http://sbigare.us/viewtopic.php?p=131442#p131442

can i replace step 3 with wanted size?
kudos
Author:  fuego [ Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:50 am ]
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yes. ^^
Author:  telmoMRC [ Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:32 pm ]
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what shity bluray i have :beh: :beh: it have alot grain and it seems oversharpened :beh:

i run a compress test whit this

Image

the size is 2/3 :hihi:

and whit this script
Quote:

DGSource("ass.dgi")
Crop(80, 10, -80, -18)
Spline36resize(720,576)
MCTemporalDenoise(settings="very low",GPU=false,enhance=true,sharp=false)



any ideias ??? i know if i increase the size will be good but is already to big :D
Author:  elguaxo [ Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:44 pm ]
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If the Bluray is really shitty as you say, you could do a 480p instead of a 576p!

resize to 720x480 and to calculate the SAR instead of using

Code:
          4*X
SAR = -----
          5*Y


use

Code:
          2*X
SAR = -----
          3*Y
Author:  telmoMRC [ Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:51 pm ]
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yeahhhhh i will do that :bisou: :bisou: :gayflag: :dance:

belive it or not but in another day i ask to my self if the formula was the same of 576p :hihi:

:gif:
Author:  elguaxo [ Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:57 pm ]
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The frame size is 17% smaller. If the compressibility is that bad you'll still need a big filesize, but it will be better than trying a 576p.
Author:  telmoMRC [ Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:44 pm ]
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whit the same script 480p , cmd and whit 3223 bitrate [1/2] it give 20.53

i think i will cancel this spagethi movie
:cry:
Author:  elguaxo [ Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:50 pm ]
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Just do the math. 480p is just 17% smaller than 576p, but you still chose a filesize that's 25% smaller than your previous try. :roll:
Author:  telmoMRC [ Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:54 pm ]
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me and math are like fire and water :hihi: :hihi:

i will try again
Author:  elguaxo [ Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:57 pm ]
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Don't expect miracles from going to 480p. The filesize of your first try, 2/3DVD, is not good enough for 576p, but should be ok for 480p.
Author:  telmoMRC [ Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:24 pm ]
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whit 2/3 = FR 19.40

i gona try :cheer:
Author:  sense [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:57 pm ]
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MCTemporalDenoise keeps saying this clip is not MOD4 even though I have no cropping specified and the resolution is 1920x1080, WTF?
Author:  elguaxo [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:06 pm ]
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Are you using the latest version? If yes, then post the bug @ doom9.

I've used the latest version on a few scripts, but they were mod16. 1920x1080 is not mod16, so dunno if there is a problem for MCTD with that resolution.
Author:  sense [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:07 pm ]
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elguaxo wrote:
Are you using the latest version? If yes, then post the bug @ doom9.

I've used the latest version on a few scripts, but they were mod16. 1920x1080 is not mod16, so dunno if there is a problem for MCTD with that resolution.


I'll crop for mod16 and check (& yes using latest version).
Author:  sense [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:15 pm ]
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Yeah cropped to mod16 Crop(0,4,-0,-4) and it loaded up, complains it's not mod4 but doesn't work with mod4, only 16 :hihi:
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