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So which one was for the last screen? :fishy: :nose:
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Last one is SeeSaw so 109
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I don't have much experience in that range, but try LUX-85 anyways even though it could undersize, it's worth a shot if it doesn't cause you'll have awesome quants!

Or you could raise the sharpening very very slightly up or lower the denoising by little.

Dunno if V3 would be too much for that comptest aka LUX-90... Lemme know of the results :cheer:

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If you decide to encode with that script that is. Fuck I dunno what Im saying anymore, not enuf sleep :lol:
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I'll give it a whirl and post results. :D
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Hmmm I didn't notice this in my other encodes, the encode is a bit darker than the .avs, like it lost contrast or something.

Checking now if it's Chroma-ME :non:
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Oh I guess it's a normal xvid effect, removing chromaME or vhq for b-frames don't change a thing.

Doesn't matter though, the impact is negligible, I just like to nitpick over poop :cum:
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Here's the report:

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DivX DRF Analyzer v0.9.5 Report!
File Name: C:\_Babycart6\white.avi
FourCC: XVID
Codec: XviD0046
Resolution: [ Width: 720 Height: 304 ]
Frame Rate: 23.976 frames per second
The Video has 120183 frames [ 01:23:32 ]

Average Frame quality is  HIGH   [Average DRF/quantizer is 2.65]
Standard Deviation: Quality is HIGH   [Std. Deviation is 0.57]
Image Resolution is HIGH

There are NO frame drops ( NO drops is better )

Recomended Resolution: [736x304]    (Target DRF/quantizer=2.8)
The filesize can be smaller!

Performance Caracteristics:
Macroblocks per frame: 855
The Width is not multiple of 32. May degrade performance in some systems.

Kilobits per Second: 2241.40
Kilobits per Frame: 93.47
Kilobits per Macroblock: 0.109
Bits per Pixel: 0.44

Frame Type Statistics :
I Frames: 1.10%
P Frames: 51.82%
B Frames: 47.08%
S Frames: 0.00%
N Frames: 0.00%
(More Advanced Codecs use B and S frames)
Frame Quality Statistics :

DRF=1&2:   47776   40.2%
DRF=3:      65378   55.0%
DRF=4:      5707   4.8%
DRF=5:      0   0.0%
DRF=6:      0   0.0%
DRF=7:      0   0.0%
DRF=8:      0   0.0%
DRF=9:      0   0.0%
DRF>9:      0   0.0%
KeyF/DeltaF:      1.11%
KeyDRF<4>4:   0

AverageKeyDRF:   2.00
MAXDRF:   4
AverageDRF:   2.65
Deviation:   0.57

http://www.geocities.com/analyzerDRF/
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Those seem to be pretty steamy!!!!

You should use avinaptic though for analysis, it's awesome ;)

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p ... post966470
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Just a quickie: I'm not sure if there's a small problem with the LUX-CT function. I tried it out, and from its own results it gave Comptest = 108, which should use LUX-85. However, when I used LUX-CT it chose to use LUX-90 which resulted in an oversized file.

Don't know if something needs tweaking?
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Yes, for now don't use LUX-CT, it worked fine previously but then I removed the modifications elguaxo or something :teeth:

COMPTEST normally is your way into paradise :cum: :lol:
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OK, so I got an undersize with the batch file. :non:

LUX-90 gave me 1.58GB

LUX-85 gave me 1.44GB

Can you make a LUX-87.5 preset please. :D
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I also got undersizing with older versions of LUX-85.

Replace lines 37 and 38 in xvid_presets_25h.csv with this:

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"LUX-85","1","4","1",".",".","1","100","100","v3hr-sap.xcm","3",".",".",".",".",".",".",".",".",".","-10",".",".","Y","."
"LUX-85","2","6","4",".",".","1","100","100","v3hr-sap.xcm",".","2","3","2","4","2","4",".",".","0","-10","Y","Y",".","."


I don't know if these settings are good enough to replace the current LUX-85, but in your case you will hit the right filesize and have nice quants. I changed the B-VOP sensitivity to -10 (which is not too much).
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Thanks man, I'll give that a go.
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So 85 is a stinker :lol:

Isn't -10 too much? I mean -3 lowers compressibility a lot :beh:

Perhaps better then to use heini? Heini 1/1/0 perhaps? Dunno if that would be in the 90 range though :stupid:


PS. thanks for the input! :good:
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Lux Delux wrote:
So 85 is a stinker :lol:

Isn't -10 too much?


I had an undersize similar to ViSCeRaL and -3 was too little. I am sure he will get some 4s, but that's ok! Another problem might be the OCS=0 parameter!? I haven't played around with that parameter, so I don't know... Perhaps with OCS=0 it is not picking enough 2s to fill the target size?

ViSCeRaL, don't forget to post the full avinaptic report, drf stats included!

Edit: another solution could be doing the first pass at Q=2. With Is/Ps/Bs at min=2 the difference between a first pass at q=2 or 3 is that at q=2 you get more Q2 frames than when you do the first pass at q=3.


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So maybe

heini 1/1/1 with -3 b-vops and min Q=2 at first pass would be enough to bring the compression down to make it a good 85 alternative?

I presume it certainly loses compression with Q=2 at first pass? If not much then we stick with V3HR, but anywayz we need tests :D

Hmmmm this opens new possibilities :)
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I still haven't finished the V encode. It was the encode where I got undersizes with LUX-85. Will try a 1/1/1 with -3 b-vops and Q=2 at first pass.

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Awesome! :cheer: :cheer:
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Interesting, seems Bloodrayne is around this league with about 100 and something little comptest :beh:

Guess I'll wait for your results. ;) And Im always fishy thinking bout V3 matrix, I've another one with 117 comptest. Hmmm I'll run a small comparison test :cum:
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elguaxo wrote:
ViSCeRaL, don't forget to post the full avinaptic report, drf stats included!


Will do. I'm running a different encode ATM, so when I go back to the problem one I'll post up results.
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We gotta fill that hole :ele: :ele: :ele:
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Dammit! Still undersized even with the adjustments elguaxo suggested. :(

Off on holiday for a coupleof weeks now, I'll do some more beta testing when I get back. :lol:
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I am running tests on a movie with similar problems. I will have a new LUX-85 when you are back.

Lux I told you, a B-VOP sensitivity of -10 is not too much! :lol:

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ViSCeRaL wrote:
elguaxo wrote:
ViSCeRaL, don't forget to post the full avinaptic report, drf stats included!


Will do. I'm running a different encode ATM, so when I go back to the problem one I'll post up results.


Here we go:

Code:
[ About file ]

Name: msp.avi
Date: 10/08/2007 15:33:04
Size: 1,552,578,560 bytes (1480.654 MB)

[ Generic info ]

Play duration: 01:30:56 (5455.538872 s)
Container type: AVI OpenDML
Number of streams: 2
Type of stream nr. 0: video
Type of stream nr. 1: audio
Audio streams: 1
ISFT: VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 (build 2540/release)
JUNK: VirtualDubMod build 2540/release

[ About quality ]

Resolution: HIGH (704 x 368)
Width: multiple of 16 (GOOD)
Height: multiple of 16 (GOOD)
Average DRF quality: HIGH (2.612911)
Standard deviation quality: HIGH (0.573018)
Std. dev. weighted mean: HIGH (0.346056)

[ Video track ]

FourCC: xvid/XVID
Resolution: 704 x 368
Frame aspect ratio: 44:23 = 1.913043
Pixel aspect ratio: 1:1 = 1
Display aspect ratio: 44:23 = 1.913043
Framerate: 23.976 fps
Number of frames: 130802
Stream size: 1,242,754,352 bytes
Bitrate: 1822.374480 kbps
Qf: 0.293386
Key frames: 1616 (0; 156; 259; 371; 372; ... 130778)
Null frames: 0
Min key int: 1
Max key int: 240
Avg key int: 80.941831
Delay: 0 ms

[ Audio track ]

Audio tag: 0x2000 (AC3)
Bitrate: 448 kbps CBR
Channels: 6
Sample rate: 48000 Hz
Chunks: 56775
Stream size: 305,245,696 bytes
Delay: 0 ms

[ About MPEG4 encoding ]

User data: XviD0046
Packed bitstream: No
QPel: No
GMC: No
Interlaced: No
Aspect ratio: Square pixels
Quant type: MPEG custom (*)
Custom intra quant matrix:
      8  10  10  10  11  11  13  15
     10  10  10  10  11  12  14  16
     10  10  11  11  13  14  16  18
     10  10  11  13  15  17  19  23
     11  11  13  15  19  22  26  29
     11  12  14  17  22  28  34  41
     13  14  16  19  26  34  44  55
     15  16  18  23  29  41  55  72
Custom inter quant matrix:
     16  16  16  16  16  17  19  22
     16  16  16  16  16  18  20  23
     16  16  16  17  19  20  23  27
     16  16  17  19  22  25  29  33
     16  16  19  22  28  32  38  43
     17  18  20  25  32  41  50  60
     19  20  23  29  38  50  66  81
     22  23  27  33  43  60  81 106
Number of frames: 130802
Drop/delay frames: 0
Corrupted frames: 0

I-VOPs:  1616 (  1.235 %)                         
P-VOPs: 68294 ( 52.212 %) #############           
B-VOPs: 60892 ( 46.553 %) ############             
S-VOPs:     0 (  0.000 %)                         
N-VOPs:     0 (  0.000 %)                         

Max consecutive B-VOPs: 1

[ DRF analysis ]

Average DRF: 2.612911
Standard deviation: 0.573018
Max DRF: 4

DRF"<"2:     0 (  0.000 %)                         
DRF=2: 56590 ( 43.264 %) ###########             
DRF=3: 68254 ( 52.181 %) #############           
DRF=4:  5958 (  4.555 %) #                       
DRF">"4:     0 (  0.000 %)                         

I-VOPs average DRF: 2.005569
I-VOPs std. deviation: 0.074419
I-VOPs max DRF: 3

P-VOPs average DRF: 2.194907
P-VOPs std. deviation: 0.396129
P-VOPs max DRF: 3

B-VOPs average DRF: 3.097845
B-VOPs std. deviation: 0.297105
B-VOPs max DRF: 4

This report was created by AVInaptic (10-04-2007) on 22 ago 2007, h 13:08:14
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Specs look pretty good to me :good: I wonder what gx has to say...

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Average DRF: 2.612911


= good AFAIR

Some screens maybe, or even a sample?
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Looks great but undersized. I'm still working on a new LUX-85 preset! My undersize encode of V using LUX-85 looks like yours: http://bad-good.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=65948#65948

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What's this I hear about a new LUX-85 ^^

I've been without monitors for 2 weeks ya know :beh:
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3) inside the .txt file write

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COMPTEST sizeMB


where size is the size of your video, like 1162MB for example.


Sorry for being thick :beh:
The size of my video? do you mean the size I want my rip to be? how big it is in vobs beforehand? or even how many mb I want to use for a comptest?

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Yeah, the size of your rip. Or you can enter the bitrate there instead of MB
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