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avs2xvid.bat with Lux presets
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Author:  Lux Delux [ Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:36 pm ]
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:lol:

now that I think about it, it seems that I don't like it FS cause of the filtering, becomes more obvious. Dunno if I should rip it again, don't think that without -3 sensitivity it would be much of a difference....

Bleh I'll make a sample :teeth:
Author:  Lux Delux [ Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:49 pm ]
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Here's one to shit your pants :lol:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/kjgdq5
Author:  Lux Delux [ Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:13 pm ]
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I guess it's back to v3hr instead of heini with -3, does make more sense after all :)

Bloodrayne goes back to encoding, my filtering was poop, I lowered it.

Hmmm need to update the package :pork: Any suggestions to add/change something?
Author:  elguaxo [ Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:23 pm ]
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Put the latest xvidcore.dll in the /bin folder: http://maxupload.com/6B8124FB

In the .bat I changed this:
Code:
set PP0=-threads !NUMTHRD! -progress 100 -max_key_interval !KEYINT!

to this:
Code:
set PP0=-threads !NUMTHRD! -progress 100 -overhead 0 -max_key_interval !KEYINT!


I did this a long time ago, and I don't remember why? :fishy:
Here it is: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p ... post790096
I use MeGUI just for cropping and as a bitrate calculator. -overhead 0 works better if you use MeGUI as bitrate calculator.
Author:  Lux Delux [ Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:31 pm ]
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All right, done, thanks :cheer:

Gonna upload it :cum:
Author:  Lux Delux [ Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:58 pm ]
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Oy Mariachi, how about ripping that awesome monster movie with these presets ha?

I think you don't need filtering if I remember correctly.

I want an AFR of it dammnit! :grrr:
Author:  El Mariachi [ Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:37 pm ]
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Lux Delux wrote:
Oy Mariachi, how about ripping that awesome monster movie with these presets ha?

I think you don't need filtering if I remember correctly.

I want an AFR of it dammnit! :grrr:


I have an AFR but I'm too scared to post it. You outrip me. And I think after ripping it has some block in the scenes with smoke and motion

:ele: :spank:
Author:  Lux Delux [ Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:42 pm ]
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Make a test encode with these presets :spank: :spank: :spank: :D

+ it should lower the amount of blocks in those scenes ;)
Author:  elguaxo [ Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:59 pm ]
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Lux, time to upgrade: http://maxupload.com/252FD20A

Changelog:
Merged changes made in the new avs2qxvid_25h to your bat. It now detects multiple cores and sets the number of threads in the xvid encoding accordingly.
xvid_presets_25f.csv has now only the comptest and LUX presets.
Changed some parts of the bat. Now, after the comptest it recommends the right LUX preset LEVEL following your comptest-lux table.

Now I'm encoding V using the new LUX-85.
Author:  Lux Delux [ Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:02 pm ]
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WHOAH awesome :eek: :bow:

So LUX-CT will select the preset automagically ha? :ele:

Could you tell me the line in the .bat so I can update it later if needed :)
Author:  elguaxo [ Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:04 pm ]
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Sample comptest result:
Code:
17/06/2007 12:03:18,60 - Checking Source
17/06/2007 12:03:31,77 - Testing Compressibility
17/06/2007 12:03:31,77 - Encoding Single Pass
start "3% Compressibility Test - Single Pass" /b /wait /belownormal "H:\dvd\new5_v\bin\xvid_encraw_20070203.exe"  -zones 0,w,1,KO -threads 1 -progress 100 -overhead 0 -max_key_interval 240 -nopacked -quality 4 -vhqmode 0 -max_bframes 2 -bquant_ratio 162 -bquant_offset 0 -qtype 1 -qmatrix "H:\dvd\new5_v\matrix\Didees-SixOfNine.cqm" -nochromame -turbo -single -cq 3 -stats "H:\dvd\new5_v\tmp\v.ct.stats" -type 2 -i "H:\dvd\new5_v\v.ct.avs" -avi "H:\dvd\new5_v\v.ct.avi"
Source FPS              = 24000/1001
No. of frames for CT    = 3280
Size of selected frames = 17666092
Target Bitrate          = 1118kbps
17/06/2007 12:55:58,56 - Comptest = 108
17/06/2007 12:55:58,56 - Level = 85
17/06/2007 12:55:58,59 - Loading Preset


These are the lines:
Code:
   set LEVEL=30
   if !CPTRS! GEQ 60 set LEVEL=50
   if !CPTRS! GEQ 65 set LEVEL=55
   if !CPTRS! GEQ 70 set LEVEL=60
   if !CPTRS! GEQ 76 set LEVEL=65
   if !CPTRS! GEQ 81 set LEVEL=70
   if !CPTRS! GEQ 89 set LEVEL=80
   if !CPTRS! GEQ 101 set LEVEL=85
   if !CPTRS! GEQ 110 set LEVEL=90
   if !CPTRS! GEQ 121 set LEVEL=95
   echo Selected Level          = !LEVEL!
   echo !DATE! !TIME! - Level = !LEVEL!>>"%LOGFILE%"


But I think I changed other lines too.
Author:  Lux Delux [ Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:08 pm ]
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Hmmm need to look into it :)

BTW I put packed bitstram in the bat to -nopacked ;)
Author:  Lux Delux [ Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:12 pm ]
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The new .rar is up so if anyone got the old one get the new one instead :pooper:
Author:  Lux Delux [ Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:57 pm ]
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elguaxo wrote:

Now I'm encoding V using the new LUX-85.


Oh I missed this. Did you cancel the old one? If not then did it look crapsy?
Author:  elguaxo [ Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:20 pm ]
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Looked fine, but undersized.
Author:  Lux Delux [ Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:22 pm ]
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Aaah so I guess -3 works well when it has the compression for it. I guess it makes too much p3 frames when it doesn't. :beh:
Author:  Lux Delux [ Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:31 pm ]
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Oh and, I think you'll get undersized with V3HR too, cause I think the compression level is the same as with heini with -3 ;) :beh:

Hm guess there will have to be some changes if it undersizes with 85.
Author:  elguaxo [ Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:39 pm ]
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Lux Delux wrote:
Oh and, I think you'll get undersized with V3HR too, cause I think the compression level is the same as with heini with -3 ;) :beh:


Ouch, I think you are right. :beh:
Author:  Lux Delux [ Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:51 am ]
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:beh:

How it went?

Oh and an idea just hit me about the lower presets. Since V8 is pretty tricky to get with the right comptest to look good, perhaps a safer alternative would be
Jawor's 1cd but with 1/1/1 and less curve compression.

:beh:
Author:  elguaxo [ Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:43 pm ]
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The Jawor's 1CD idea sounds good.

New LUX-85 version: undersized almost by the same factor. With the previous preset the compressibility after the first pass was 150%, now it is 148%. :fishy:

Now comes LUX-90.
Author:  Lux Delux [ Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:49 pm ]
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Hmmm so with comptest 102% you undersized with preset 85, interesting :fishy:

How much did it undersize?

I guess it could be just this source? I currently have one running with V3LR, meaning preset 60, end of first pass bitrate is ~1800 of available ~2300.

But I noticed the bitrate in the first pass should be like 500-700 lower than the desired to reach the desired filesize with a good result :beh: :beh: :beh:
Author:  elguaxo [ Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:57 pm ]
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Comptest was 108

Lux Delux wrote:
But I noticed the bitrate in the first pass should be like 500-700 lower than the desired to reach the desired filesize with a good result :beh: :beh: :beh:


Interesting!

The undersize on my first test was ~13MB. I haven't finished the second pass of the second LUX-85 test, but since the compressibility was about the same. But I'm going to let it finish now.
Author:  Lux Delux [ Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:06 pm ]
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Hmmm yes perhaps it will be the same then, and I dunno about V3, it shouldn't be too much less compressible than V3HR but more compressible than 6of9.

Or maybe we can replace V3 with 6of9 but with 2/1.62/0 and perhaps slight curve compression, don't know how much it raises compressibility.

Oh and Jawor's 1cd with 1/1/1 was slightly less compressible than v8. Need to compare it to V3LR so I know if it's in the middle! :beh:

Damn, gotta go to work :stupid:
Author:  Lux Delux [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:37 am ]
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All right, currently making a size compariosn between

V3 with 1/1/1

and

6of9 with 2/1.62/0

:cum:
Author:  elguaxo [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:48 am ]
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You probably saw this already: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p ... ost1016284

I like the idea of all the LUX presets! The best thing is having many presets, the bad thing is that the comptest is doing just 3%. Let's see how to make bigger comptests. :bearsy:

BTW, the 2nd pass of V is not finished yet, I think it will undersize by less MBs than with the old LUX-85. And ~4MB undesize is almost no undersize. :mex:
Author:  Lux Delux [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:57 am ]
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:bearsy:

Oooh I haven't seen that! Sounds neato, could prove to be even more precise, which means more testing, more fun ^^

So V3HR stays it seems as the next choice, but let's wait and see the quality of the result too :mex:

BTW an important revelation I'd say, and it seems I should completely ditch V3?

Cause, 901 frames encoded:

V3, 1/1/1 - 5,86mb

6of9, 2/1.62/0 - 5,50mb

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Gonna spin 6of9 with 1/1/1 and also gonna see what heini_lr6of9 gives with 2/1.62/0 :eek:
Author:  Lux Delux [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:12 am ]
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No point in V3 it seems :lol:

V3, 1/1/1 - 5,86mb

6of9, 1/1/1 - 5,88mb

:eek:

shit, lemme test this against the v3hr preset too with 2/1.62/0 :eek:
Author:  Lux Delux [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:33 am ]
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Uhmmm can it be the source? Cause this is pretty insane.

2/1.62/0 6of9 is more compressible than v3 AND v3hr :fishy: :fishy: :fishy:
Author:  elguaxo [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:39 am ]
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I would say the source.
Author:  Lux Delux [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:42 am ]
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Trying it on Bloodrayne too then :D :ele:
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