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gav616
Mr. TightAss
Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 1:20 am Posts: 3007
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freenet is pooptacular
been using freenet on linux for a couple of days now, and i think its gonna be bigger then ed2k (in terms of hosting rare shit). it would be awesome with a SBiG index. Only downside is, its initially very complex, and takes time to understand how the fuck it works. Basically we could create a mini darknet community, with 10-20 nodes. If your new to it, its nothing like any p2p you have dealt with before, for example, - you host random encrypted data for the whole network - its completely anonymous Read all the info here http://freenetproject.org/I'am a big geek, so i find its concepts really interesting
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Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:15 pm |
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Pure
Veggie Fridge
Joined: Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:59 pm Posts: 21656 Location: Fuck You! GoodBye!
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Re: freenet is pooptacular
*bookmarked* I'll have a read
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Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:09 pm |
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electroneon
Chuck Norris Ball Sweat
Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:48 am Posts: 883
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Re: freenet is pooptacular
Quote: Freenet has a footprint of around 200MB of RAM Interesting project but I think RAM load is bit higher than expected. Anyway it won't be a problem in 2-3 years for most of the users.
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Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:24 pm |
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gav616
Mr. TightAss
Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 1:20 am Posts: 3007
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Re: freenet is pooptacular
electroneon wrote: Quote: Freenet has a footprint of around 200MB of RAM Interesting project but I think RAM load is bit higher than expected. Anyway it won't be a problem in 2-3 years for most of the users. yeah, the footprint is from java that runs the webserver and node, but its cross platform which is a big plus, and my node has been running 4 days and its only 80Mb, which my amule daemon was 30mb, so not too bad. The main plus of the network is having friends (darknet) that your always connected to (fully encrypted mind you) so releasing is not conventional but reliable, it would just be the same as releasing ed2k links but using freenet links. For example: uploading to the network is a piece of piss: step 1, upload the file, in full, once, to the network, step 2, publish the freenet key to the website, now your opennet and your darknet (SBiG) peeps download, then every single person in the entire network uploads bits of the file to everyone else (datastore). Its mad ATM my datastore is 10GB and upload capped at 30KiB, the main problem (if you can call it that) is that you don;t have any control over what is on your harddrive, soo you could be sharing anything. example: Quote: Do I have to donate disk space and bandwidth? You aren't really donating in the sense that you lose the disk space and the bandwidth; but you aren't really sharing either (at least not the same way as with filesharing programs). It is more like pitching in to the common Freenet resource pool.
What about child porn, offensive content or terrorism? While most people wish that child pornography and terrorism did not exist, humanity should not be deprived of their freedom to communicate just because of how a very small number of people might use that freedom.
I don't want my node to be used to harbor child porn, offensive content or terrorism. What can I do? The true test of someone who claims to believe in Freedom of Speech is whether they tolerate speech which they disagree with, or even find disgusting. If this is not acceptable to you, you should not run a Freenet node. There is another thing you can do. Since content in Freenet is available as long as its popular, you can help limit the popularity of whatever information you do not like. For example, if you do not want a file to spread you should not request it and tell everyone you know not to request that specific key. However, keep in mind that freenet is not designed so as to only allow communication between people if a sufficient number of people agree with the communication. Freenet is designed to make communication possible even if there's just one publisher and one reader, and this is already reasonably feasible on the current freenet. But TBH i sort of agree, if you dont mind downloading pirate software but don't like to share other stuff you don't agree with , you can't have it boths ways in terms of true freedom of speak (share).
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Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:30 pm |
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gav616
Mr. TightAss
Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 1:20 am Posts: 3007
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Re: freenet is pooptacular
also, another awesome thing, you could host the entire site on the freenet network with all the files, all encrypted. And only people with freenet (from within a browser) could view it (and host parts of it) the possibility of it are endless.. examples: Quote: I have nothing to hide and don't need anonymity. Is there anything else Freenet can offer? Yes, in fact even without the anonymity feature Freenet is very useful because of its unique way it handles content distribution and information load. In simple terms that means you can publish a website without worrying about how big the site will be and without having to put someone elses ad banners on it. While it is unlikely that freenet sites will ever load faster than regular websites, it does adapt to sudden surges of visitors (which will often occur when relatively unknown sites get linked to from a big site) better, and high download speeds for big files are feasible too. Just don't expect very low latency. jSite: http://freenetproject.org/jsite.htmlFreemail: http://freenetproject.org/freemail.html
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Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:03 pm |
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gav616
Mr. TightAss
Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 1:20 am Posts: 3007
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Re: freenet is pooptacular
also, I would like to invite some of you to reply here if you get it up and running and we will add each as friend and test the scale of this.
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Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:10 pm |
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Pure
Veggie Fridge
Joined: Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:59 pm Posts: 21656 Location: Fuck You! GoodBye!
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Re: freenet is pooptacular
gav616 wrote: I'am a big geek, so i find its concepts really interesting I'm seeing this is true, enough advantages but will it be worth the 'trouble'
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Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:37 pm |
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gav616
Mr. TightAss
Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 1:20 am Posts: 3007
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Re: freenet is pooptacular
mark my words, when none encrypted p2p networks die (ISP's are killing them) freenet with reign.... (....probably even when site hosts ban even posting links to pirate stuff....) maybe looking into it before the wall falls might be a good investment
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Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:48 pm |
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gav616
Mr. TightAss
Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 1:20 am Posts: 3007
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Re: freenet is pooptacular
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Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:45 pm |
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GRiND
Sabrina the Witch
Joined: Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:41 pm Posts: 4800 Location: Metalchussetts, The Altered State of Druggachussetts
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Re: freenet is pooptacular
Sounds nice but very sketchy, plus my shitburner doesn't need any more load on it. Emule uses enough Definitely considerable.
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Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:43 am |
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gav616
Mr. TightAss
Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 1:20 am Posts: 3007
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Re: freenet is pooptacular
my ISP (and government) are/is buttseksin' me, so I've gone back over to Freenet to have a play around. In the next release of Freenet, there will be anon forums and IRC like systems which is a good place to inform and post rips and shit. ATM i'm uploading a couple of shitbusters rips to freenet, also, me's creating a Freesite (SBiG like website, hosted on freenet) which is soo simple its stupid. ta (is anyone interested....) ...in my penis
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Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:43 pm |
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Pure
Veggie Fridge
Joined: Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:59 pm Posts: 21656 Location: Fuck You! GoodBye!
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Re: freenet is pooptacular
Yes and yeah Always interested in looking into/using other networks
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Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:10 pm |
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elchupacabra
Tittietantalized
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 7:56 pm Posts: 627
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Re: freenet is pooptacular
gav616 wrote: also, another awesome thing,
you could host the entire site on the freenet network with all the files, all encrypted. And only people with freenet (from within a browser) could view it (and host parts of it)
the possibility of it are endless.. It says (and that is quite reasonable) that you can only host static HTML via freenet. Which means you would have to edit HTML pages manually instead of using a database and a complex board/forum like this. One would need to send links to a head person that then continuously updates the pages. Freenet site wrote: Communications by Freenet nodes are encrypted and are routed through other nodes to make it extremely difficult to determine who is requesting the information and what its content is. The bad thing is that they only have to pass a law that prohibits any kind of activity related to file sharing. That way even participating would be illegal, making this entire thing quite useless.
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Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:32 am |
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gav616
Mr. TightAss
Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 1:20 am Posts: 3007
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Re: freenet is pooptacular
elchupacabra wrote: gav616 wrote: also, another awesome thing,
you could host the entire site on the freenet network with all the files, all encrypted. And only people with freenet (from within a browser) could view it (and host parts of it)
the possibility of it are endless.. It says (and that is quite reasonable) that you can only host static HTML via freenet. Which means you would have to edit HTML pages manually instead of using a database and a complex board/forum like this. One would need to send links to a head person that then continuously updates the pages. Freenet site wrote: Communications by Freenet nodes are encrypted and are routed through other nodes to make it extremely difficult to determine who is requesting the information and what its content is. The bad thing is that they only have to pass a law that prohibits any kind of activity related to file sharing. That way even participating would be illegal, making this entire thing quite useless. **runs off screaming** I'll investigate more, but I'm not sure I get the last statement.
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Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:00 pm |
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elchupacabra
Tittietantalized
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 7:56 pm Posts: 627
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Re: freenet is pooptacular
I'm sure you don't. Forget it. If that is going to happen, I'll leave Europe.
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